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Fun with Vapour Part Five: DIY Mixing your own E-Juice/E-Liquid

I gave up cigarettes for e-cigs 29 days ago today. Until now I have been vaping various tobacco flavours but the concentrated flavour additives I ordered from The Perfumer's Apprentice have finally arrived. E-juice - the stuff that makes it "go" - isn't a very clear-cut matter. For instance, in many countries there are difficulties locally obtaining juice with nicotine. I had to ask some e-cig veterans for a "secret" list to find a Canadian vendor that would ship it. There are three different common bases for the e-juice and some people like to mix them in different proportions. The intensity of flavours varies from producer to producer. Rather than buying a sample from here or there to feel the market out I figured the more sensible route of action given the cost of materials would be to make my own juice to-taste.

A week into my adventure I realized I would soon be running out of e-juice. At the time fearing I would only be able to get nicotine juice from China (~30 days shipping) and with little knowledge I hit up a health food store and bought a bottle of Vegetable Glycerine (VG) and some flavour additives. There are two things horribly wrong with this picture:

  1. The gauge of those needles is far too fine to draw highly viscous VG; pulling the plunger on anything much smaller than an 18 gauge will simply suck the air in from behind
  2. Those arty-farty organic flavour additives are oil based. Apparently using oil-based flavour additives in your e-juice may lead to a build-up of fluid in your lungs, which is conducive to respiratory infections.

With a little more research under my belt I ordered some water-soluble flavours from The Perfumer's Apprentice and some tobacco samplers from NorthernVapor.

I have this to say about the tobacco flavours I tried:

  • Weak.
  • Canadabacco tastes grapey.
  • Flu-cured hits better in the nose, tastes somewhere in the ballpark of burnt toffee.

Naturally, the flavours become more dilute when mixed with an appropriate amount of nicotine juice. This confirmed my theory that it is not worth leaving the flavouring up to other people, whom are fallible and may not have as deadened taste-buds as we.

Behold:

It took them a while to ship and a million years to get here (US->Canada postal service is abysmal during the hollies) but I'm finally breaking into my new flavours:

  • Caramel Cappuccino
  • Maple Syrup
  • Bavarian Cream
  • Lemon
  • Maraschino Cherry - Very fruit-punchy. Sort of a powdery, perfumy rose petal undertone. Burns the tongue when over-mixed.
  • Apple Candy - Weak in small quantities, awful if over-used
  • Peach - Delicious but much less potent than Cherry, cart required full cleaning to noticeably change flavours.
  • Granny Smith
  • Key Lime - Crisp and refreshing!
  • Tea
  • Hazelnut
  • Cola
  • Juicy Fruit
  • Mango
  • Blackberry - Amazing! Has a sort of floral note in weaker concentrations. Cool fluorescent colour. Contains ethanol and hits strong! Good tolerance for under/overmixing. My favourite so far.

I'll post what I think of them as I try them out.

To make your own e-juice first decide what base you want to start with:

  • Propylene Glycol - The standard which most e-cig producers and commercial juice suppliers use.
  • Vegetable Glycerine - Slightly sweeter, produces noticeably more vapour.
  • PEG 400 (Polyethylene Glycol) - Some people say it's safer, some people say it produces more vapour and some say it tastes worse. It is usually the most expensive of the three.

Many seem to find that they are happier mixing two or even all three of these in varying proportions. The second item for consideration is nicotine. Nicotine is so poisonous that a couple of undiluted drops on the skin is potentially lethal. Chances are you can not and do not want to get your hands on some of it. Patronizingly, some "veteran" e-ciggers will throw a tantrum at the mere mention of the idea; but the fact is they're probably right and you're really not as clever or careful as you think you are.

The generally accepted standard in the e-cigging community is to try and get very high strength flavourless juice, be it from China or a local vendor if you can find one. I have seen juice with concentrations as high as 100mg/ml but the bottle I am working with currently is 46mg/ml which can be cut by two parts to produce "medium-high" juice. Obviously the lower the concentration of nicotine in the mixing juice the less room you have to add flavours etc. Some folks like to add a drop or two of ethanol or vodka (I imagine the higher the proof the better the taste) to enhance the throat hit. It's difficult to obtain scientific grade ethanol in Ontario without the benefit of paperwork but not at all difficult to distil; I will share my thoughts once I have tried it.

Comments

karma

@lianne
I usually use about twice as many drops as most recipes call for, but that is far less than 30. Of course, it depends on the volumes you're working with.

If you're craving a cigarette, HAVE a cigarette. Just one. For godsake don't go out and buy a pack or they will sit there staring you down. But there is 0 harm in bumming one off a friend if you really can't shake the craving - or it will get worse and more intense the more you focus on it.

On an e-cig you're still addicted to nicotine so cold turkey is BS. Eventually, I found, the addiction simply wore off after a few months and it became more trouble than satisfaction to bring the thing to my lips.

• lianne

Hi,
Thanks for the quick reply.
I"ve thrown the whole top bit. I've tried my juice and it"s still burning, so I put in a shop bought one, and it tastes OK. How many drops of flavour do you use (approximately?) In total I probably use about thirty.
I' starting to crave a cigarette again... not good.
Lianne

• lianne

Hi,
I could really do with some advice please.

I started mixing my own a few weeks ago. My first few went well. However, I've just done a new batch, and it's awful. It physically burns the back of my throat, and tastes awful. Very similar to how a burnt out atomiser tastes.
I've replaced the atomiser and then cartomiser, but it's still bad.when I use a bought oil, it works fine in my e-cig.
I've been mixing VG and PG 50/50, then adding flavour drops to taste.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks
Lianne

Also, this may be unrelated, but recently smoking has left sores just on the inside of my lips, where the mouth piece rests

karma

I would say you're adding way too much flavour concentrate.

Some of them just don't react well to being heated and they definitely get acidic.

There's nothing that will get the taste of a bad juice out except extensive cleaning and patience.

karma

Re: Also, this may be unrelated, but recently smoking has left sores just on the inside of my lips, where the mouth piece rests.

I didn't see that at first, but I'm pretty damn sure it's related.

Either you are adding too much flavour or, judging by the burning taste, the atomizer is getting too hot.

I would toss the whole assembly and get a new one ASAP.

Sores are NOT OK.

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• Sofian

Thank you....looking forward to mix my own liquid. Can I omit the nicotine and only have 2 ingredients instead? Thank you.

karma

Of course.

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karma

@Edward N
Glad to have helped!

Edward N

I am looking into possible DIY for a site I run. Its looks like all I really need are 3 main ingredients.

The flavorless vape liquid (can be a mix PG/VG/PEG 400) The flavoring and the nicotine which gets cut down to the correct mg suitable for vaping.

Thank you for sharing and taking the time to write a detailed blog with full instructions and advice.

BTW I almost ordered 5000 thin gauge syringes for my site and glad now I didn't my gut told me that I should get a sample first and my vendor said that was not possible so I scraped it. WHEW.

karma

@dee
It's amazing. I started by putting two drops of maraschino cherry into a soaked cart and the intensity was as high as I hoped it would be. Now I'm trying to work Juicy Peach into the atty but Cherry is holding its own. I just let someone who's tried with one of the tobacco flavours and didn't think much of it have a hit of the cherry and his eyes lit right up. Really makes it feel like there's something THERE, far more satisfying to my craving than anything else I've had so far.

• dee

wondering how you are making out with this project? I have been "vaping" for over two year's and enjoy it very much!